"I'm not mad. I feel sorry for him. It's like- I don't know. Like he's tormented. Does that make sense?"

He sighs.

"I think it's kind of my fault how it went down. In that same conversation, he was talking about how he wasn't sure about what Tom needed and I said to not make things worse if a clean break would be better. Was that bad? I mean, I know a little something about needing to be sure before going for it."